Hopbot log for 2009-12-03 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2009-12-03:

[10:00] <hannesw__> oberhamsi: quick question:
[10:00] <hannesw__> are you using ajp13 in your helma deployments? or http proxy?
[12:08] <oberhamsi> hannesw__: ajp13
[12:14] <hannesw__> ok
[12:15] <hannesw__> there may be a problem with ajp13 support for high traffic sites in jetty 6.1
[12:15] <hannesw__> twoday.net switched back to helma 1.6.3 because of this
[12:15] <hannesw__> symptoms are occasional burst of ajp13 connections between apache and jetty
[12:15] <hannesw__> so we may have to go back to jetty 5 for helma 1.7
[12:39] <oberhamsi> hannesw__: aha.. we (more like manfred) hit that issues with high-load tests
[12:40] <hannesw__> really?
[12:40] <hannesw__> have to ask manfred about it.
[12:40] <oberhamsi> the ajp13 connections wouldn't go down after a burst of requests
[12:41] <oberhamsi> ... wouldn't go down as fast as we would have thought and there were too much of them
[12:42] <oberhamsi> thereby killing the server once the open file descriptors hit the uname limit
[13:19] <kmfdm_> hi
[13:19] <kmfdm_> hannes? are you there?
[13:19] <kmfdm_> <- manfred
[13:31] <hannesw__> hi kmfdm_
[14:26] <hannesw__> zumbrunn: what do you think about helma ng doc?
[14:26] <hannesw__> http://helma-doc.appspot.com/
[14:27] <hannesw__> have you looked at it?
[14:27] <zumbrunn> yes, I have
[14:27] <hannesw__> I guess you're the one who knows most about jsdoc, and will be best able to spot deficiencies :)
[14:27] <zumbrunn> I haven't looked at it in that depth yet
[14:29] <zumbrunn> I really need to play with it a bit
[14:29] <hannesw__> in case you need help, let me know
[14:29] <zumbrunn> yep, ok
[14:30] <hannesw__> i'm planning to do a static doc generation tool, probably called helma-doc
[14:31] <zumbrunn> btw, I agree with you regarding the require vs include argument you mentioned on the commonjs list
[14:31] <zumbrunn> the pain of restricting oneself to just require really pays off later on
[14:31] <hannesw__> yep
[14:32] <hannesw__> especially with a language like JS, where you never really know :)
[14:49] <oberhamsi> re: read url as bytearray, stream... i know others (java, python) handle urls like file-like, which makes those cases more natural
[14:51] <oberhamsi> jetty http client looks nice, will check it out
[15:28] <oberhamsi> hannesw__: regarding helma.http, good questions :) i'll think about those. i still think the quick & dirty get(url, data) maybe get(url, data, headers) is nice to have
[15:29] <oberhamsi> currently those easy things are hard and the hard things (async, stream-reading) not possible

 

 

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