[16:16]<hannesw__> robertg: would jala i18n be a candidate for helma-ng, and maybe commonjs level standardization? [16:16]<hannesw__> http://dev.orf.at/trac/jala/wiki/JalaModules/I18n [16:16]<hannesw__> haven't ever used this [16:16]<hannesw__> the topic of localization came up on the narwhal list. [16:26]<robertg> porting i18n to helma-ng shouldn't be that much work, i think [16:27]<robertg> it's main benefit is the generation of gettext .po template files, which is imo helpful when working on bigger projects [16:29]<robertg> otoh it might feel cumbersome to generate the .pot-file, translate it using eg. poedit, and then create js message catalogs out of them [16:29]<robertg> probably there's room to improve ;) [16:54]<robi42> ad helmatic i18n: found knallgrauLib's take on this actually pretty nice to use. [16:55]<robi42> cf. https://trac.knallgrau.at/knallgrauLib/browser/trunk/docs/wiki/i18n.wiki [16:56]<robi42> works w/ simple java properties files, among other things [16:57]<robi42> possible downsides: probably quite highly intertwingled w/ other knallgrauLib code etc. [16:59]<robi42> maybe a rewrite impl. its basic concepts would make most sense there... [21:16]<botic> Hi! Any IntelliJ 9 users here? [21:28]<hannesw__> botic: me [21:28]<botic> what's the best way to create a helma 1.x project? [21:28]<botic> i'm a little bit confused [21:29]<botic> i check it out from the repository and then nothing - no files, no file explorer [21:29]<botic> do i need a special setting or add a "dummy" module? [21:29]<hannesw__> do you have the community edition? [21:29]<botic> no [21:29]<botic> does it have js-support? i think not [21:30]<hannesw__> the normal edition has js support [21:30]<hannesw__> and it's quite good actually [21:30]<hannesw__> does a lot of refactorings, and recognizes lots of smelly or buggy code [21:33]<botic> jep and that's the fine thing. i found two bugs thanks to it [21:34]<hannesw__> in the project view, try selecting anohter mode [21:34]<hannesw__> View as [dropdown] [21:34]<hannesw__> try setting that to "Project" or something [21:34]<botic> ahhhh - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0cNRMogwOs [21:34]<botic> now it's working [21:35]<botic> i enabled the webapp thing [21:35]<botic> and then just deleted the autogenerated web.xml [21:35]<botic> now it's working [21:38]<hannesw__> actually I'm trying to use emacs lately [21:38]<hannesw__> emacs js2 mode is superb [21:39]<hannesw__> and since i discovered you have use the emacs-snapshot package on ubuntu even font display is great [21:39]<hannesw__> http://riddell.us/tutorial/emacs/emacs.html