2009-10-21:
[7:08] <simono> rage ahead: colleague, philipp, wanted to use helma for lab assignm. and got that FUD back (german) http://img18.yfrog.com/i/g2z.jpg/[7:09] <hannesw__> haha[7:09] <simono> .. was forced to use JSF. i think they built JSF *just* to comply with the strange "quality assuring" guidelines (use interface, must be DAO, must not auto persist)[7:09] <hannesw__> what is "selbst gebastelter singleton"?[7:10] <simono> no idea... not one of his points is worth thinking about[7:11] <simono> philipp will fight for helma :) we coached him for talk to prof 2morrow[7:13] <hannesw__> is that helma 1 or helma ng?[7:13] <simono> helma1[7:15] <hannesw__> any mac users around?[7:15] <hannesw__> or windows?[7:15] <hannesw__> i need testers for my newly forked jline :)[7:15] <hannesw__> http://github.com/hns/jline[7:33] <hannesw__> zumbrunn: please let me know when/if you're there and have some time to spare :)[7:54] <zumbrunn> hannesw__: ok![7:54] <zumbrunn> what should I do?[7:54] <hannesw__> sure?[7:54] <zumbrunn> build jline?[7:54] <zumbrunn> yep :-)[7:54] <hannesw__> yep, check out via git from http://github.com/hns/jline[7:55] <hannesw__> mvn package[7:55] <zumbrunn> ok, got it[7:55] <hannesw__> and copy to helma/lib (should overwrite/replace old jar)[7:55] <hannesw__> what behavioru with backspace/delete did you get with new snapshot?[7:55] <zumbrunn> hmm...[7:55] <zumbrunn> [INFO] Error to resolving surefire provider dependency: Missing:[7:55] <zumbrunn> ----------[7:55] <zumbrunn> 1) org.apache.maven.surefire:surefire-junit:jar:2.4.2[7:55] <hannesw__> hm, damn[7:55] <hannesw__> no idea what that is for[7:56] <zumbrunn> http://helma.pastebin.com/d651869a8[7:56] <hannesw__> does mvn compile work?[7:57] <zumbrunn> yep[7:57] <zumbrunn> that worked[7:57] <zumbrunn> oh, it's my maven setup[7:58] <zumbrunn> tries to get everything from the day repo :-)[7:58] <hannesw__> i see[8:02] <zumbrunn> ok, got the package built now[8:04] <zumbrunn> it's working fine now, with that jline jar[8:04] <hannesw__> woohoo![8:04] <hannesw__> that's great[8:04] <hannesw__> both backspace _and_ delete?[8:04] <zumbrunn> yep :-)[8:05] <hannesw__> super[8:05] <hannesw__> thanks a lot[8:31] <zumbrunn> simono: hahaha... that helma fud is *really* funny[8:31] <zumbrunn> "h?ufige Typefehler v.a. bei Vererbungshierarchien"? ...what the hell are they talking about with that one?![8:32] <zumbrunn> even the advantage of Helma that they see does not make any sense[8:32] <zumbrunn> at least they claim to know something about Helma, apparently[8:33] <zumbrunn> I guess that is already an advancement ;-)[13:23] <botic> hi! someone here who knows a nice beginner tutorial or simple demo app for helma newbs?[13:24] <botic> there was a simple blog-app tutorial, but the blog is now offline.[14:25] <botic> btw. just started the 1.7rc3 to write a short introduction for our team. if i run the manage app, i get the following error when rendering the API:[14:25] <botic> TypeError: Cannot find function getDoc in object [Application welcome]. (manage.zip/Application/functions.js#40)[14:41] <zumbrunn> botic: the manage app in 1.7rc3 works for me[14:41] <zumbrunn> how do you "run" it?[14:42] <botic> manage app also runs, but not http://localhost:8080/manage/welcome/api/read[14:42] <botic> i'm using mac os x[14:42] <botic> maybe some troubles with my file permissions...[14:42] <zumbrunn> ok, I have that problem as well[14:42] <botic> okay, good to hear.[14:44] <zumbrunn> stamped as "reproducable" ;-)[20:29] <hannesw_> zumbrunn - in case you're still in a testing mood:[20:30] <hannesw_> i fixed a lot of stuff in my jline fork today[20:31] <hannesw_> in case you find some time to test it on mac os x pls let me know how it went.[20:32] <hannesw_> in particular i fixed long/wrapped line handling - it should all be working now on unix/ansi terminals.[20:32] <hannesw_> http://github.com/hns/jline[20:44] <zumbrunn> hannesw_: what would be a good way to test the long/wrapped line handling?[20:45] <zumbrunn> (got it, built it, installed it)[20:45] <hannesw_> type a lot of stuff until the line flows over, and on until you have 3, 4, 5, 6 lines full of garbage[20:45] <hannesw_> then use cursor keys, delete, backspace, home, end buttons...[20:45] <hannesw_> this didn't work previously[20:49] <zumbrunn> looking good[20:49] <zumbrunn> I'm not noticing any problems[20:49] <hannesw_> woooohoo!
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