Hopbot log for 2009-02-19 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2009-02-19:

[10:00] <hannesw_> zumbrunn: do you think we'll manage to shut down the old helma site today? tomorrow?
[10:16] <zumbrunn> what is still over there now?
[10:16] <zumbrunn> the orm tutorial
[10:16] <zumbrunn> what else?
[10:41] <hannesw_> the overview pages - oh, just saw that you moved over the links already.
[10:43] <hannesw_> I'm experimenting with displaying a page's tags more prominently beneath the header:
[10:43] <hannesw_> http://dev.helma.org/wiki/Object-Relational+Mapping/
[10:43] <hannesw_> I'm not sure it works.
[10:43] <zumbrunn> probably the things under deployment guide and Code Snippets are still missing
[10:43] <hannesw_> yes, but code snippets might be out of date anyway
[10:43] <hannesw_> and deployment guide too. i moved half of that over already:
[10:44] <hannesw_> http://dev.helma.org/tags/deployment/
[10:45] <zumbrunn> ok
[10:54] <hannesw_> hm, what do you think of how tags are displayed now?
[10:54] <hannesw_> http://dev.helma.org/wiki/Configuring+Jetty+in+Helma+1.x/
[10:54] <hannesw_> I think it's a bit more visible and thus more useful.
[10:54] <hannesw_> not sure about style tweaks, though
[10:55] <simono> first time i really noticed the tags
[10:55] <hannesw_> :-)
[10:56] <hannesw_> might also move something like "last modified by Lehni on Fri Oct 20 2006" there, too, same font and color
[10:57] <simono> well lastmodified is interesting, not sure about the "who"
[10:58] <hannesw_> ok, maybe last modification date that links to the history page...
[10:58] <hannesw_> i always find it interesting who modified a page :-)
[10:58] <simono> so do I when it's about helma.. but usually I don't :)
[11:01] <simono> did robert tell u? we will kikstart jala the next weeks..
[11:02] <hannesw_> what? no! what do you mean by kikstart?
[11:11] <zumbrunn> jala for ng? or what?
[11:12] <zumbrunn> come on now, the secret is out ;-)
[11:17] <hannesw_> i guess simono has gone for lunch to leave us in the dark
[11:17] <hannesw_> so do i now :-)
[11:43] <simono> sorry lunch yes
[11:44] <simono> we want to get the dev server to us, freshen up the docu, this kind of stuff
[11:48] <simono> are you "only" replacing helma.org-skins or are there structural updates in the pipeline?
[12:33] <hannesw_> good to hear the jala news!
[12:33] <hannesw_> for helma.org, i updated to gobi svn snapshot which has a few new features
[12:34] <hannesw_> and we're consolidating everything on the new server, i.e. bringing stuff over from old helma.org
[13:00] <simono> sounds good
[14:22] <hannesw_> simono: have you (plural, meaning orf on folks) ever thought about folding jala into helma (svn, web space, trac)?
[14:23] <simono> wasn't jala once packaged with helma?
[14:24] <hannesw_> i'm just thinking, our resources are spread thin already, so scattering them even more might not be optimal
[14:24] <hannesw_> yes, it is packaged with helma (via svn external dependencies), but it is developed and managed separately
[14:25] <hannesw_> just an idea, maybe you can talk about it with robert and the others
[14:27] <simono> sure, i will suggest using helma-infastruct for hosting the jala development. i think we are not yet sure what we want... we have some tiny projects that are tools for helma developers and want a place to collect and showcase them
[14:28] <simono> .. and of course pickup jala on the way
[19:59] <bremende> anyone ever setup helma in netbeans?
[20:12] <zumbrunn> hi bremende, I haven't, but are you talking about netbeans for working on helma itself (java ide) or for building helma apps (javascript ide)
[20:12] <bremende> itself
[20:12] <zumbrunn> ok
[20:13] <bremende> i figure its vi/emacs, eclipse or netbeans being my choices

 

 

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