[1:35]<hannesw> helma should run with jsvc now. [1:35]<hannesw> http://commons.apache.org/daemon/jsvc.html [1:36]<hannesw> (helma 1.7 i.e. svn trunk, that is) [1:36]<hannesw> command line to start helma as daemon: [1:36]<hannesw> sudo jsvc -debug -home /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun -pidfile /var/run/helma.pid -user hannes -cp /usr/share/java/commons-daemon.jar:launcher.jar helma.main.launcher.Main -w 8080 [10:37]<Tyro7> hi hannesw, you were talking about using a component based framework like wicket earlier ... [10:37]<Tyro7> what did you have in mind? [12:34]<hannesw> Tyro7: i'm thinking abbout something component-based to fill the gap between skins/templates and pure model/view/controller [12:46]<Tyro7> have you looked at grails dynamic tag libraries: http://dev.helma.org/wiki/Helma+NG+Wishlist/#Dynamictaglibraries [13:10]<hannesw> a bit, yes [13:30]<hannesw> basically that is what macros and filters are in helma, isn't it? [16:40]<Tyro7> yeah, youre right; what did you have in mind with the wicket like components?