[17:17]<decke> today i had a look at the helma-ng source and saw that they use jetty 6.1.10 -- glad to see that [17:19]<zumbrunn> helma-ng is based on the Helma 2 alpha code, which is based on the old Rhinola code, which already was ahead in that regard [17:20]<decke> yeah i have seen that jetty startup thing is done in JS completely... [17:20]<decke> so that is completely different to how helma 1.x does that [17:22]<zumbrunn> yes, it has a very lean core compare to Helma 1.x [17:24]<zumbrunn> (and everything else is done in js) [17:27]* zumbrunn is downloading ganymede right now [17:28]<zumbrunn> (the new eclipse release) [17:28]<decke> woah... behave yourself! [17:28]<decke> tried it - laughed - removed it [17:29]<zumbrunn> oh well, I at least need to try anyway [17:32]<decke> that's what i thought too... but the eclipse releases seem to get worse since 3.2 [17:37]<decke> but there is no PHP plugin at the moment so it's not an option for me right now [17:40]<zumbrunn> it doesn't do e4x, unfortunately [17:41]<zumbrunn> that would have been a selling point [17:41]<decke> what is that good for? [17:41]<zumbrunn> I'm using it for skins/templates on the server-side [17:42]<decke> and helma knows that? [17:42]<zumbrunn> helma knows e4x, yes [17:43]<zumbrunn> helma doesn't know I'm using it for skins, for that it needs a little help [17:45]<decke> interesting stuff [17:45]<decke> do you know an easy couchdb example that i could use to test couchdb 0.8.0? [17:46]<decke> because someone told me to make an couchdb port for freebsd and i was stupid enough to say yes.. [17:46]<decke> now i need an short example to test if it works... [17:50]<zumbrunn> no I don't [17:50]<zumbrunn> midnightmoster might have something, if he comes around [21:12]<decke> so my couchdb port is finished now... just needs a few tests if it works... [22:12]<decke> i think my problem has solved itself... couchdb has an testsuite in the web admin panel