[11:23]<rjb> hmmm [11:24]<rjb> http://helma.zumbrunn.net/reference/core/HopObject.html#getOrderedView [11:24]<rjb> the example of dealing with getOrderedView() is not very helpful [11:25]<zumbrunn> true [11:26]<rjb> var ov = root.getOrderedView('cdate desc'); [11:26]<rjb> var n = 0; [11:26]<rjb> for (var k in ov) n++; [11:26]<rjb> n; [11:26]<rjb> (in the helma shell for my app) [11:26]<rjb> guess what is returned? [11:27]<zumbrunn> getOrderedView returns a collection... [11:27]<rjb> i mean, what is n equal to? [11:27]<zumbrunn> so you probably want var ov = root.getOrderedView('cdate desc').list(); ? [11:28]<rjb> hardly follows from the example [11:28]<zumbrunn> I know [11:28]<zumbrunn> collections aren't really documented anywhere right now [11:29]<rjb> yeah that's the problem here [11:29]<zumbrunn> they basically have a subset of the HopObject methods [11:31]<zumbrunn> actually, the current docs are simply plain wrong (since getOrderedView *doesn't* return an array of the sorted subnodes) [11:32]<rjb> yep [11:36]<rjb> actually my goal atm is to return a json representation of all subnodes of my app's root [11:40]<rjb> i'm almost there.. [11:42]<zumbrunn> I see I have already fixed the docs in cvs [11:42]<zumbrunn> I just never rebuilt the docs that are online since then [11:42]<zumbrunn> will try to do that shortly [11:43]<rjb> toJSON() seems to omit the _id property though [11:45]<zumbrunn> is _id enumerable? [11:45]<rjb> and it represents a Date object as {} [11:45]<zumbrunn> maybe toJSON just picks up what is enumerable [11:45]<zumbrunn> yes, Date isn't supported in JSON, I believe [11:46]<rjb> _id = id in type.properties, id being the p.k. of my sql table [11:47]<rjb> and _children.accessname = id [11:48]* zumbrunn goes walking the docs before it starts raining again [11:50]<rjb> hmm is there any standard for treating Dates in JSON? [12:00]<rjb> http://developer.mozilla.org/es4/proposals/json_encoding_and_decoding.html [12:03]<rjb> that is currently just a proposal though, i think [20:57]<rkerr> Any chance of running Helma on websphere or iplanet? [23:07]<midnightmonster> better ask the mailing list [23:36]<rkerr> mhmmm