[6:34]<aiba> If an action changes a database-mapped HOPObject, do other actions in other threads see those changes immediately, or only after the action finishes and the transaction is committed? [6:36]<aiba> Oh, I can call response.commit() to make sure other threads see the changes immediately. Still curious about the answer though. [6:48]<zumbrunn> what do you mean by "other threads"? [6:49]<zumbrunn> when using app.invokeAsync() or other requests or what else? [6:51]<zumbrunn> aiba, ping [6:51]<aiba> other active requests [6:51]<zumbrunn> don't hink they see the changes [6:52]<zumbrunn> hink == think [6:53]<aiba> yeah, i guess that would require overriding the javascript assignments, and it doesn't seem like desirable behavior anyway, so cool, thanks =). [17:22]<jsp> where do I actually download the jala modules? [17:23]<jsp> found it: http://dev.orf.at/trac/jala/browser/dist/jala-1.2.zip?format=raw [18:34]<jsp> anyone with experience with file uploads? [18:35]<zumbrunn> depends on your definition of "experience" ;-) [18:35]<jsp> ok... basic. how do I get the file I uploaded? [18:36]<jsp> apparently it's now stored as a tmp file... can I get access to it as a path or file object? I want to use jala.Mp3 on it [18:37]<zumbrunn> well, when you process the upload, you get the file data as a req.data property [18:38]<zumbrunn> just like all the other request parameters [18:38]<jsp> ok, so <input type="file" name="yippee" /> --> req.data.yippee [18:38]<zumbrunn> your code has to take care of writing it to a file [18:38]<zumbrunn> exactly [18:39]<jsp> apparently since 1.6 it's stored in a tmp file as it comes in so it doesn't have to sit in memory. I'd like to be able to access that tmp file directly. [18:45]<zumbrunn> does Hannes' upload progress example code reveal anything like that? [18:46]<jsp> not that I could find. [18:46]<jsp> that it's stored in a tmp file is in the 1.6 release notes. where its stored or how to access it is ?? [18:47]<zumbrunn> don't know, would have to look at the java source [18:48]<jsp> ok. looks like mimePart.writeToFile() does a move in that case, so it should be quick. I just won't know what I want to name it until I've read the file already, so I'll have to move it twice [19:53]<jsp> does a HopObject know the value of _children.accessname? [20:56]<jsp> or is there some way to learn it from HopObject.prototype? [20:56]<jsp> since everything's dontEnum'ed, I can't poke through properties myself