[8:12]<simono> hannesw, do you know what this error-msg on appengine is trying to tell me? http://helma.pastebin.com/mc1a25b2 happens on first app access [8:13]<hannesw> simono: yes, but it's not a big problem [8:13]<hannesw> it's telling you the helma/logging module can't start a thread to watch for log-config file updates [8:13]<simono> ok, just asking because this blocks the app for some seconds [8:13]<hannesw> you don't see this in the html output, do you? only in the server logs? [8:14]<simono> ok thx, i get it.. [8:14]<simono> yes only in the serverlog [8:14]<hannesw> it shouldn't block the app. how do you know it does? [8:14]<simono> with block i mean.. the first request takes 5+ seconds, then this msg shows up.. and all subsequent requests are a lot faster [8:15]<hannesw> yes, but I think that's not caused by the exception. [8:15]<hannesw> first time loading is slow in app engine because the app is instantiated (at least that's what I think) [8:15]<simono> ok, i will stop worrying about that then :) [8:15]<hannesw> you can try removing the line from modules/helma/logging.js and see if it becomes faster [8:16]<hannesw> but afaik first time access (especially after app updates) is always very slow [8:16]<simono> ok i will try that