[2:41]<phil_s> hello [3:24]<peter_12> phil_s: hello [6:22]<jirkap> anyone here? [6:35]<phil_s> yes [6:35]<phil_s> how are you? [6:38]<jirkap> well, trying not to sleep :) [6:45]<jirkap> i've got a question, maybe you can help. Is there a way how to get a real path out of a Helma app? All I keep getting is path to HopObjects.. [6:47]<jirkap> well, not that real :) assuming I've got a folder named 'Whatever' with HopObject 'What', I'd like to access that folder from 'Global', so the result should be ../Whatever, but I keep getting 'What' [6:47]<jirkap> no matter what i do [6:53]<phil_s> sorry i dont know.. [6:53]<jirkap> ok, never mind [8:07]<zumbrunn> jirkap, no there isn't, not except for static mountpoints anyway [8:09]<zumbrunn> the the folder 'Whatever' in your example is a "prototype", not an object [8:09]<zumbrunn> and Helma resolves requests to objects [8:09]<zumbrunn> which are *instances* of a prototype [8:10]<zumbrunn> what is it you are trying to do? [8:48]<phil_s> wanna see my object server? [8:48]<phil_s> inspired by helma [8:48]<phil_s> http://snell.dyndns.tv/sites/object/www/ [8:48]<phil_s> admin / abc123 [9:37]<zumbrunn> phil_s: is it currently doing what it is supposed to be doing? [9:37]<zumbrunn> in which way is it inspired by helma? [9:38]<phil_s> it very new. its an mvc server [9:39]<phil_s> its not like helma really, except the mvc part is similar [9:40]<phil_s> but just from working with objects in helma is what got me thinking about the connection