[1:50]<bmp> I have two key questions on HopObjects and their mappings to RDBMSes: [1:50]<bmp> First, I can't figure out how to handle a complex key. Is the answer simply that they aren't supported? [1:51]<bmp> Second, I can't figure out how to represent relationships that are not hierarchical. In an OODBMS, I could handle that by having the same object appear in two different structures. In an RDBMS, we're just talking about foreign keys in multiple places. In Helma, I can't quite figure out a way to represent what I want. [7:02]<zumbrunn> hi bmp [7:03]<zumbrunn> I believe for the purpose of the object/relational mapping in helma you need a simple key [7:03]<zumbrunn> oops, you just left [7:04]<zumbrunn> anyway, you might want to take both those questions to the helma-user mailing list [7:05]<zumbrunn> you can define multiple parent mappings and access the same object through different collections [7:05]<zumbrunn> http://helma.org/docs/guide/mapping/basic/ [8:48]<jkridner> I have a quick question. What is the easiest way to serve favicon.ico? [8:49]<jkridner> I think making an action is difficult, because of the '.'. [8:51]<jkridner> nm, I guess it works to just put it in the markup. [9:30]<zumbrunn> jkridner: actually actions with a period in their name work just fine [9:30]<zumbrunn> additionally, you can use a underscore in place of the period [9:30]<zumbrunn> helma will automatically substitute that appropriately [9:31]<zumbrunn> also, you could use a link tag to point to the fav icon [9:31]<zumbrunn> <link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://dev.helma.org/static/files/0/helma.ico" type="image/vnd.microsoft.icon" /> [9:32]<zumbrunn> or catch and redirect the requests to /favicon.ico with apache before they get to jetty/helma [9:33]<zumbrunn> or catch them using an onRequest handler [9:34]<zumbrunn> or using the notfound handler [9:34]<zumbrunn> many ways lead to rome