Hopbot log for 2007-06-28 - Helma IRC channel: #helma on irc.freenode.net

2007-06-28:

[7:14] <fab__> guten morgen :)
[7:16] <zumbrunn> Hallo Fabian!
[7:18] <fab__> hi chris!
[13:10] <hns> Helma is on programming.reddit.com:
[13:10] <hns> http://programming.reddit.com/
[13:12] <zumbrunn> Helma == Rhino on Rails in stealth mode since 2001 ;-)
[13:50] <JohnResig> hey everyone - anyone around?
[13:51] <zumbrunn> Hi John!
[13:51] <JohnResig> hey - so thanks to programming.reddit, I just stumbled across this project
[13:51] <JohnResig> it looks very interesting, digging into it more
[13:52] <zumbrunn> you've never come across it before?
[13:52] <JohnResig> no! a shame, I know!
[13:52] <zumbrunn> we must really be running in stealth mode ;-)
[13:52] <hns> hi John. nice to see you here.
[13:53] <JohnResig> I get the impression that JavaScript-based web app frameworks tend to get pushed to the side
[13:53] <zumbrunn> well, there are a lot of misconceptions about javascript still out there
[13:53] <JohnResig> yeah, unfortunately
[13:54] <hns> it's been pretty bad for years. getting better now, with rising interest in rails etc.
[13:54] <JohnResig> yeah, absolutely
[13:54] <zumbrunn> and the entire ajax hype helped as well
[13:54] <JohnResig> the time is definitely right to strike - I'm trying to figure out how to promote "JavaScript as a language" more, and promoting a project like this would definitely seem to help (imo)
[13:54] <JohnResig> ha, of course ;)
[13:54] <zumbrunn> the image of javascript has improved a lot
[13:57] <zumbrunn> the main problem for "javascript as a language" is probably that it is so intertwined with the DOM in most peoples heads
[13:57] <JohnResig> absolutely - it seems like the best way to separate them would be to give solid examples to the contrary (shell scripting, web apps, etc.)
[13:59] <JohnResig> antville seems quite promising
[13:59] <JohnResig> I'm going to have to give that a try
[14:00] <hns> Cool.
[14:01] <hns> Helma takes a bit to get into, because it does a few things its own way - unfortunately.
[14:01] <hns> Things such as code layout and so. If you get stuck, don't hesitate to ask.
[14:01] <JohnResig> sure thing - will do
[15:59] <fab__> i would like to implement the import function directly in helma using its object model
[15:59] <fab__> but a DOM parser will use to much memory
[16:28] <zumbrunn> fab__, maybe orfon, knallgrau or systemone folks on the helma-user list can help with that
[16:33] <fab__> zumbrunn, thank you. btw. i tried your "notfound" workaround and it works nicely!

 

 

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